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18 July 2015 @ 09:53 am
Hello, everyone!  
I apologize for using a super old account to do this, but I would really like your help! I am currently in talks with a Japanese company about creating a plus size gothic lolita clothing line, and I would love some feedback in the form of a survey to show them that there is a strong interest here for clothes like this. I also created the survey to give them an idea of what we'd like to see made and what the trends are. If you could help me out by taking a minute to fill out this 10 question survey and/or sharing it with any friends you have that fit the demographic, I would really, really appreciate it.

Here is the link to the survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/2DBRSV7

EDIT: It's been brought to my attention via multiple sources that the pictures I've chosen (thoughtlessly) have caused much concern and unhappiness. So in order to avoid this, I'm switching all the surveys to a text version that will hopefully get me the answers I want without causing concern and upset. I do apologize for any offense or anger that my poorly chosen pictures caused. I am honestly very sorry, and I hope now the focus can be on the clothing and on my intentions rather than the pictures. Thank you for your feedback!

Here is the new survey link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NMMXZC6

If this isn't an appropriate post for this community, I'm very sorry, and I'll take it down. Thank you so much for any help you can give me!
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rommilyrommily on July 18th, 2015 07:22 pm (UTC)
I started to take the survey, but I am not from US, so I do not know my American clothing sizes for both dresses and shoes.
Could you link to a size chart with centimeter measurements for bust and waist. And maybe a shoe size conversion chart...?

Question 8 about prize range, would it be for one item? And a big like dress or a small like accessory? Or is it money spent in a month?

The example pictures surprised me because for me only 2 of 8 are lolita. Aren't you planing a lolita clothes line? The pictures look like Western punk x goth...
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 18th, 2015 07:44 pm (UTC)
Hi!

Sorry about that! An oversight on my part!

Here's a link to a shoe size conversion chart: https://manoftoday.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/windowslivewriterinternationalshoesizeconversionchartscon-10249image02.png

Here's a link to a clothing size conversion chart: http://f.tqn.com/y/golondon/1/S/2/G/0/-/womens-clothes.JPG

As far as the L, XL, etc one, I can't really find a conversion chart, but I guess based on the number size one, maybe you can make a guess. Or just skip that one if not.

For the price range, think about it like for one item. What would you be willing to spend on a piece of clothing (dress, shirt, skirt). I know that obviously people are going to spend more on dresses than shirts, but I just want to try and find out people's budgets/expectations on prices.

Thanks for responding and thanks for taking the survey!
rommilyrommily on July 19th, 2015 02:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much!
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 20th, 2015 05:49 am (UTC)
You're welcome! Thanks for taking the survey!

I forgot to answer one of your earlier questions about whether the line is lolita or not so I'll do so now! It's not going to be purely just lolita. It will probably have a mix of goth/punk and lolita influences to incorporate more consumers. Part of the reason for survey is gauge what sort of styles garner the most interest! So I am trying to share on both lolita focused sites and more jrock fashion sites as well, but I'm having a harder time tracking the latter kind down. If you know of anything, please let me know!
lauraeuphoricstimuli on July 20th, 2015 09:50 pm (UTC)
Just to butt in here. If you are going for Lolita inspired jrock, I would find it totally awesome if instead of mixing the styles up, you had a load of jrock stuff that was vaguely purist for jrock fans and one or two Lolita dresses that were really nicely done authentic quality rather than loads of crossover stuff. Like Restyle tries to rather than Hot Topic to reference Western Brands. That would (to me anyway) be more useful than lots of crossover. Sorry to have so many opinions here!
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 20th, 2015 10:10 pm (UTC)
Yes, I can definitely understand that point of view! I don't know how much influence I'm going to get to have as far as design, but I will definitely pass this along. I would also like to see less crossover and more variety of both styles.

Don't apologize for having opinions! This is what market research is all about! Thank you so much!
jenhitomi_kanzaki on July 20th, 2015 05:25 am (UTC)
I took the survey! I hope it works out!! Have you made a post on tumblr? If you have, can you send me the link? I want to reblog and spread the word! :)
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 20th, 2015 05:46 am (UTC)
Thank you so much!! I don't have a tumblr, and I haven't found anyone to share it on tumblr yet, so if you would be willing, that would be awesome! I have different surveys for each different platform so this would be the link for the tumblr version:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YQ5YGJZ

If you could start spreading it on tumblr, I would really, really appreciate it! :D
lauraeuphoricstimuli on July 20th, 2015 05:23 pm (UTC)
Hi, I don't mean to be rude, but I would not really consider any but the black and white dress and the chessboard one Lolita and the black and white one is more a style for people doing Lolita as a costume than a lifestyle. I understand you are not just doing a Lolita line, but your understanding of Lolita fashion seems a bit sketchy (you also didn't use the correct terminology for the clothes in the what items of clothing would you buy section) Although it pains me to say this as I am desperate for a proper Lolita brand for plus sized women, I think you need to consider whether you know enough about the style to include Lolita. Lolis find it really offensive when hot topic style clothes are marketed as Lolita.
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 20th, 2015 06:39 pm (UTC)
I am aware that calling clothes lolita that don't follow the rules of lolita is sure to cause outrage amongst the community, and I do apologize for using "lolita" as shorthand here. I'm not sure that the line is going to be proper lolita because I will admit I don't know as much about it as I should (but I'm also not the only person involved in this process, and I know the company does have someone on hand who is educated about making gothic lolita clothing). So please don't judge everything only by what I'm doing!

I know the pictures aren't perfect. I put this survey together somewhat quickly, and I was intentionally trying not to use recognizable brands. In other versions of the survey, I've now switched the pictures question to one with style keywords instead because I've realized that the pictures are turning people off, and I do apologize for not choosing them more carefully. The intention was just to try and get an idea of what sort of silhouettes/styles/looks people are interested in.

I hope this addresses your concerns! Please feel free to reply and give more feedback! I personally am much more on the goth/punk side of the equation, and I definitely don't want to upset the Lolita community. If anything, the line may have more inspiration from Lolita fashion than be specifically "Lolita" if that makes sense. We are still in the planning stages, and I have yet to meet some of the other team members who I am sure will be more educated than I am when it comes to the Lolita side.

Can you explain to me what terminology should have been used in the "what do you buy" question? I was going with general clothing terms because that's what most people are familiar with. I didn't even think that was going to be a problem so I'd really like to know what was wrong there because I am trying to learn!

I do apologize for any confusion/anger the pictures may have caused.
Baby Cinnamon: geekykurukii on July 22nd, 2015 09:42 am (UTC)
In lolita, we wear blouses instead of shirts. Shirts makes it sound like pointed collars, and straight masculine cuts. Those can not be worn with lolita clothing. Lolita blouses have either high collars (often trimmed with lace) or peter pan collars (round collars). Some other blouse styles are available, but pointed (casual/masculine) collars are for boystyle only.

I like both, visual-kei and lolita fashion. But I think it would be complicated to incorporate both styles in the same clothing. Other brands that tried a similar approach are very unpopular in the western lolita scene or have stopped business already. Punk lolita isn't very popular here at all. When we read "gothic lolita" we think of more feminine, dark and mysterious styles, maybe a black dress with roses or cathedral prints, old paintings. Some also like horror prints, but many don't. If the survey concludes that people like gothic lolita, they may not have the same idea of gothic lolita as it was intended when creating the survey.

Other than that, I'm happy for any market reseearch and especially that you consider making plus size clothing :)
I'm on the lower side of plus size and still fit into a lot of standard sizing, but I know some girls who would love to have a plus size brand. There are some other girls that would also like clothes made for tall lolitas, btw.

Edited at 2015-07-22 09:44 am (UTC)
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 22nd, 2015 06:08 pm (UTC)
As far as I'm aware, I don't think the plan is to mix the styles together, but to have both styles made available. Because there is a need for both plus size lolita and plus size gothic/punk clothing. My mistake was in trying to use gothic lolita as a catch-all term, which I now realize gave off the wrong impression. I've been more careful since then to be saying "gothic, punk, and lolita" instead.

Which is why the word "shirts" was used instead of "blouses". I realize that blouse is a more appropriate term for the type of shirts lolitas wear, but for that answer, I will just assume that people are wanting both blouses (if they are lolita) and goth/punk style shirts (if they are goth/punk).

Tall is definitely something we'll be taking into account too! Thanks for the feedback!
lauraeuphoricstimuli on July 20th, 2015 06:56 pm (UTC)
Don't worry, not angry, and glad you are trying to get it right.
For terminology, Lolita fashion usually comprises of one pieces (what you would call a regular dress) , jsk or jumperskirts, (a pinafore style dress worn over a blouse or under a shrug), blouses, skirts, petticoats and bloomers. Also shrugs with lace round the edge or cardigans, coats and headdresses, bonnets and hair accessories. I can't remember exactly what you listed, and I have to go out now, so can't check, but I would replace dress as a terminology with one piece and jsk as separate categories as they are different style items, & from the point of view of a plus sized girl one pieces have sleeves and jsks don't which makes a massive difference to what one can fit into if one has chubby arms! :-)
nihonmeichannihonmeichan on July 20th, 2015 07:23 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for explaining it to me! That helps a lot actually! Especially what you said about sleeves versus no sleeves because I totally understand that problem!

I went ahead and edited so that now there is a choice for "dresses (one pieces)" and "dresses (jumperskirts)". Hopefully that solves the problem!

Thank you so much for your help!

Edited at 2015-07-20 07:23 pm (UTC)