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Plus Size Lolita Buying Guide

Last update 3/12/10

Due to the recent influx of the same question over and over (I am x size, where can I buy lolita clothes?) I have decided to write up a quick guide answering said question once and for all.

Notes:
- Most of these measurements are rough estimates and DO NOT apply for all garments from mentioned brands. Be sure to check that what you are buying is a piece that falls under the right sizing. Also note that the "up to" measurement is usually the MAX measurement and will either be incredibly tight and/or won't look good.

- This is not a brand list. Not every lolita brand, Japanese or otherwise, is going to be on here. I'll only include brands that have a trend of selling larger clothing than Japanese standard sizes.

- I worked hard on this list. Updating it alone took over four hours. If reposting it elsewhere, please give credit where credit is due.


JAPANESE BRAND

Baby the Stars Shine Bright
Has forgiving shirring.
Full-shirring JSKs will go up to about 130cm/52"
Full-shirring blouses will go up to about 140cm/55"
Some skirts up to 96cm/38"
Some cutsews up to 111cm/44"
"L SIZE"
Back-shirred JSKs can go up to 102cm/40" bust and 84cm/33" waist
"LL SIZE"
Back-shirred JSKs can go up to 110cm/43" bust and 96cm/37" waist

Innocent World
Has forgiving shirring.
Fullshirring OPs and JSKs up to about 110cm/43"
Some cuts of JSKs up to 130cm/52" (This cut)
Elastic waistband skirts up to 100cm/39"
OFFERS "L SIZE" (but not as forgiving as Baby or Meta's larger sizes)
Some blouses up to 100cm/39" bust
OFFERS "TALL SIZE"
RUMORS OF OFFERING "LL" and "3L" sizing in the future

Metamorphose Temps de Fille
Some skirts up to 100cm/39"
Some JSKs up to 105cm/41"
OFFERS "TALL SIZE"

Angelic Pretty
Full shirring JSKs up to 100cm/39"
Full-back shirring up to 107cm/42"
Full-shirred blouses up to 136cm/53" bust

h.Naoto
Some skirts up to 110cm/43"
Some tops up to 106cm/41"

MA/MAM
Full shirring up to 105cm/41"
Full elastic waistband skirts up to 100cm/39"
OFFERS "LOVELY SIZE"
JSKs up to 120cm/47"
Blouses up to 120cm/47"
Skirts up to 110cm/43"

Milky Ange
Some dresses up to 120cm/47" in the bust
Some tops up to 110cm/43"
OFFERS "L" and "XL" SIZES
*also sells maid dresses

Putumayo
Some knits up to 110cm/43"
Skirts up to 101cm/40" HIPS
Some JSKs up to 100cm/39"

Bodyline (included because it's Japan-based, though it's not necessarily considered "brand")
Up to 110cm/43"
Offers "L" and "2L" sizing
*Not all items are lolita



CHINESE "BRANDS"

Fan Plus Friend
Sizing up to 112cm/44" bust 91cm/36" waist
Offers "LARGE SIZE"
Custom Sizing $5 USD
*also sells cosplay

Anna House
Offers S, M, L, XL Sizes
XL up to 102cm/40" bust and 86cm/34" waist.
Offers custom sizing for a small charge. (about $10 USD on average)

TAOBAO SHOPS
*when ordering custom size it may be best to add an inch or two to measurements.
(Prices and info are based off of Qcute/Qutieland shopping service, as I can't read Chinese.)

Dear Celine
"Standard Size" 92cm/36" bust 77cm/30" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 65 HKD (about $6 USD)

Rose Melody
"Standard Size" 88cm/34" bust 70cm/27" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 75 HKD (about $10 USD)

Momo & Jia Baby Shop
"Standard Size" 88cm/34" bust 70cm/27" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 70 HKD (about $9 USD)

Infanta
Offers "L" and "XL" sizing
Up to 96cm/37" bust 76cm/30" waist
Does not offer custom sizing

R-Series
Offers "L" sizing
Up to 92cm/36" bust 72cm/28" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 65 HKD (about $6 USD)

Kids YoYo
JSK "Standard Size" 88cm/34" bust 68cm/26" waist
Blouse "Standard Size" 92cm/36" bust 76cm/30" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 90 HKD (about $11 USD)

White Moon
"Standard Size" 90cm/35" bust 74cm/29" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 40 HKD (about $5 USD)

PrinCutess
"Standard size" 90cm/35" bust 72cm/28" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 55 HDK (about $7 USD)

DollscroPs
"Standard size" 88cm/34" bust 68cm/26" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 75 HKD (about $10 USD)

Surface Spell
"Standard size" 90cm/35" bust 72cm/28" waist
"Oversize" custom sizing for up to 65 HKD (about $6 USD)

Taobao shopping services
Qcute/Qutieland
Taobao Now
Miwitch" (seems to be Infanta only)
Mashimaro Girl (Potential Scam?)



AMERICAN BRANDS

In the Starlight - http://inthestarlight.com/
*CLOSED*

Excalibur Girls - https://www.excaliburgirls.com
Up to 111cm/44" bust and 91cm/36" waist.
*CLOSED* ?

Sweet Rococo - http://www.sweetrococo.com/
General sizing up to 111cm/44" bust and 91cm/36" waist.

Candy Violet - http://www.candyviolet.com/
"L", "XL", and "2XL" sizing
Up to 116cm/46" bust 96cm/38" waist

Blasphemina's Closet
Custom Sizing at no extra charge

Megan Maude
"L" and "XL" sizing
101cm/40" bust 78cm/31" waist
Up to 111cm/44" waist on some skirts
*Custom sizing available as of 3/12/10



OTHER COUNTRIES' BRANDS

Ergi
Up to 100cm/39" bust 75cm/29" waist
No custom sizing

English Charm
"L" "XL" "SXL" "MXL" "LXL" and "XLXL" sizing
Up to 122cm/48" bust 107cm/42" waist
Offers custom sizing



ETSY SHOPS

11tyone
Up to 90cm/35" bust 85cm/33" waist
No custom sizing
Available for commissions

Anachronisme
Up to 5XL
Semi-custom sizing
*Currently on hiatus

Bloom Empire
Up to 101cm/40" waist

Bondage Tea
Up to 127cm/50" waist
*A lot of stuff sold isn't lolita

Delicacy
Up to 99cm/39" bust 89cm/35" waist
sometimes offers semi-custom sizing

Dreams and Outfits
"L" and "XL" sizing
Up to 91cm/36" waist
Custom sizing
*Bloomers only

I Do Declare
Up to 96cm/38" waist

Lauralyn
Up to 99cm/39" bust 96cm/38" waist
*Not all items are lolita

Petite Royale
Up to 127cm/50" waist

Pink Sugar
Up to 94cm/37" waist

Silversark
"L" and "XL" sizing
up to 127cm/50" bust 106cm/42" waist
*Not all items are lolita/a little ita-ish

Skeletons in the Closet
Custom sizing
*more aristocrat than lolita


If anyone has anything to correct/add to this, leave a comment and I'll gladly edit it ^^ I know I've probably got some stuff wrong, overlooked some brands, so please let me know.
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[info]toujourspret

June 12 2008, 03:28:09 UTC 3 years ago

♥

[info]asashi

June 12 2008, 03:36:53 UTC 3 years ago

I don't think I'll ever own a brand jsk now ;___;

I'm sort of curious though, how do the skirts fare for btssb, IW, and Meta?

[info]toujourspret

June 12 2008, 03:42:47 UTC 3 years ago

Skirts are almost universally worse than JSKs, actually. I think Meta's the best for skirts, followed by IW, but baby's skirts are just not happening for most of us.

[info]asashi

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[info]tropigalia

June 12 2008, 04:06:15 UTC 3 years ago

Thankyou so much! This is perfect. Putting in userinfo and memories.

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 13:42:52 UTC 3 years ago

You're welcome ^^ I actually did it cuz of Xanet's bitching lol

[info]21stcherryboy

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[info]silver_youko

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[info]liddell_rawks

June 12 2008, 04:08:35 UTC 3 years ago

I think you shouldn't say $10 HKD on average since that isn't accurate at all. $10 USD would be!

I got a blouse done at my measurements (only 4 inches more than the top) and it was $70HKD, and skirts seem to be a bit less but still way over $10HKD. Fro a dress I think it was $100HKD more.

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 13:08:49 UTC 3 years ago

Ok, thank you! I must have misread that info somewhere. I'll change it ^^

[info]grimy13

June 12 2008, 04:45:09 UTC 3 years ago

For AP I know that the fully back shirred JSK's can fit 107-ish cm. And most h.NAOTO size L/XL can fit around a 106cm bust. I've recently found out that Baby cutsews can be surpizingly strechy and fit up to about a 44inch bust. (Like this one: http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/cutsaw/132717.html And I forgot what that measurement is in cm) h.NAOTO hoodies tend to have a bit of strech in them too.

My main suggestion is to aim for things with all shirring or, like with Baby and AP, full back shirring.

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 13:43:28 UTC 3 years ago

Added everything ^^ Thank you

[info]grimy13

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[info]twilighteyes86

June 12 2008, 05:19:06 UTC 3 years ago

what about the back panel shirring jumperskirts (not fully back shirred) from IW? i hear mixed things about them. if i can fit into the back panel shirring ones from baby, do you think i would fit into the ones from IW as well?

[info]cheri_claire

June 12 2008, 07:02:19 UTC 3 years ago

I only have fully back shirred ones, but IW Shirring is really tight and strong in general. Maybe if you change the elastic or something.

[info]cheri_claire

June 12 2008, 07:03:03 UTC 3 years ago

Thank you for doing this, I am sure it will be really helpful from now on!

[info]bucktick

June 12 2008, 07:44:50 UTC 3 years ago

both IW and MAM offer "L size" although their "L" is less roomy than babys or meta's tall size. It's worth mentioning. MA/MAM cutsews and sweaters are rather generously sized.

Putumayo isn't on the list. Putumayo always looks promising because most of their skirts are elastic waist but in my experience they are not sized generously and the max waist tends to be the max hips.

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 13:28:40 UTC 3 years ago

Thank you ^^
Is there any way you can give me a rough measurement of the largest they'll go?

[info]bucktick

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[info]sailorphoenix84

June 12 2008, 07:56:13 UTC 3 years ago

http://www.candyviolet.com/ - Candy Violet under AMERICAN BRANDS ?.?

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 13:43:45 UTC 3 years ago

added. Thanks!

[info]falling_empress

June 12 2008, 10:58:26 UTC 3 years ago

Gaaah just say that full shirring = 52" so people will quit asking stupid questions about whether the measurements on xx dress are accurate.

[info]catehime

June 12 2008, 11:53:37 UTC 3 years ago

she was just going for the quickiest way to end these questions. I'm impressed she did it so quickly. lol.

[info]falling_empress

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[info]silver_youko

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[info]melwen_alana

June 12 2008, 14:07:44 UTC 3 years ago

Thanks a lot!
I guess it won't cut down all of the questions, but if it avoids half of them it's a vast improvement. ^^

Btw: I own a h.naoto skirt that would easily stretch up to 110cm/43".

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 14:11:25 UTC 3 years ago

I'm hoping that's what'll happen anyway. Let's see.
And I took an educated guess on the h.naoto skirts, so thanks for that!

[info]sailorphoenix84

June 12 2008, 14:41:17 UTC 3 years ago

http://www.hearte.co.jp/ - Heart E Japanese Brand

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 15:08:36 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  June 12 2008, 15:09:32 UTC

Unless you can give me how large they can sometimes run, as I can find almost no sizing info on the site and most brands underestimate their stretch anyway, I'm not planning on putting them up there.
I really only managed to find info for one of their petticoats, and it says the elastic waist only goes up to 24", hardly plus sized.
Thank you though.

(sorry for the edits e_e I'm tired xD)

[info]bucktick

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[info]hotaru230

June 12 2008, 16:09:07 UTC 3 years ago

I think I inquired Sweet Rococo on their custom sizing and either they didn't do it or it only when up to a certain measurement and that was still too small for me....sorry that I can't rememeber which it was.

thanks so much for making this!
I've also been wondering about dress styles
http://lolitafashion.org/dress_styles.php
other than stuff with shirring and how flattering if at all they are on plus sized lolis. I have been thinking about getting a dress comissioned in something other than shirred to have something else, but am really unsure of spending money on something that will look bad on me. have you seen any guidelines for that?

[info]silver_youko

June 12 2008, 16:42:52 UTC 3 years ago

I haven't seen any, but I've been thinking of also making a guide like that for a while now (this one was just a spur-of-the-moment type thing)
Maybe I'll get around to typing something along those lines up soon.

[info]cherrydust

November 12 2008, 14:26:50 UTC 3 years ago

i have a fully shirred AP op that could fit my 52 inch bust before i lost weight. I also had an innocent world op that fit those same measurements.

[info]kurai_hime

March 3 2009, 11:22:47 UTC 3 years ago

where the...how did you...find this??

[info]cherrydust

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[info]blackgeisha17

February 6 2009, 03:10:14 UTC 3 years ago

Thank you for posting this but what about bodyline? Do they have some king of plus sizes?

[info]lotusx

April 11 2009, 05:14:39 UTC 3 years ago

Here are a couple more brands to add that offer custom sizing/larger sizes:
Blasphemina's Closet (American)
English Charm (American)
Ergi (European)
Miss Megan Maude (American)

[info]frootums

March 13 2010, 01:28:03 UTC 2 years ago

Wow thank you so much <3

[info]getdolledup

April 22 2010, 01:09:38 UTC 2 years ago

I noticed Bodyline has 3L 4L and 5L now.

[info]paxlolita

June 10 2010, 05:08:14 UTC 1 year ago

Just wondering - as I can't find anywhere that this is answered clearly... the measurements on Brand websites:

Are they taking the measurements as "FLAT GARMENT" or a circumference total? Some have told me (for example) that BABY uses flat measure, and some say circumference total. Very confused...I have to believe that they standardize it and not flip between 2 methods.

BTW - as a side note to add on Bodyline. They don't mention it on the website - but the measurements are a flat garment measure.

[info]silver_youko

June 10 2010, 14:07:44 UTC 1 year ago

I would assume circumference just because it's more accurate, but I think the only way to truly know is to email brands and ask. Also, unless it's for dresses with no shirring it doesn't really seem to matter because for the shirred pieces they never seem to list the true max.

For example this jsk http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/jumper/134229.html
is listed as 108cm the max, when we know it can go much larger.

[info]paxlolita

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[info]piratessan

September 13 2010, 19:57:42 UTC 1 year ago

A note about Ergi by Piratessan: All items (except for t-shirts, socks and headdresses) are available in custom sizes. ^__^ Usually there's an extra fee for custom sizing at about SEK 200 (USD 27) Some items can be ordered custom size for free, like the bloomers and the Helena dress.

~ Piratessan

[info]yoroshiqueen

November 23 2010, 20:47:21 UTC 1 year ago

I was looking around Excentrique's website, and they seem to have a lot of stuff that may work for plus sizes, according to the measurements, especially the skirts.

Some examples:

http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/006000000201/order/ This is listed with a maximum waist of "64cm ~ 120cm"

http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/006000000198/order/ This one is at 64cm ~ 102cm for the waist

http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/006000000217/order/ This dress 109.4cm bust/88cm waist

http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/006000000179/order/ These bloomers seem to have pretty generous measurements (and uh..can also be transformed into a bolero?)


There's more on their site, but I've never bought or worn any of their stuff though, so I don't know how their stuff would really fit.

[info]tiferet

March 27 2011, 06:19:56 UTC 1 year ago

http://www.retroscopefashions.com/lolita4.html#size

It's mostly aristocrat/steampunk, but Retroscope has some cute stuff.

I have a 44" bust and a 38" waist and my LL baby jsk fits great.

[info]cosplay_cafe

June 16 2011, 13:24:08 UTC 11 months ago

Last I checked Retroscope Fashions was all Fan+Friend.

[info]nyami_rose1

9 months ago

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[info]nonmagicpoet

9 months ago

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[info]shyshybunny

June 18 2011, 16:41:06 UTC 11 months ago

Thank you so much for this ♥ it's a great help

[info]nyami_rose1

August 29 2011, 20:31:11 UTC 9 months ago

In The Starlight reopened on Etsy a few months ago: http://www.etsy.com/shop/IntheStarlightEGL

[info]faerydragonet

September 1 2011, 07:37:39 UTC 9 months ago

Thanks. It has been updated to the new list.

[info]mr_cutiepants

August 30 2011, 04:21:05 UTC 9 months ago

Hi! Thought I'd mention that my brand Morrigan New York (morrigannyc.com) has standard sizing for all of our skirts up to a 44" waist (hips measurement free obviously :). I'm also producing a dress just now that will come in plus sizes (specific measurements to be determined, as it's still in development).

[info]faerydragonet

September 1 2011, 07:38:14 UTC 9 months ago

It would be awesome.
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